Supreme Court hears arguments in 'vampire rule' gun case

Supreme Court hears arguments in ‘vampire rule’ gun case

Spread the love

The U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments on Tuesday in a case over a Hawaii law that prohibits concealed carry permit holders from bringing guns on private property that is open to the public.

Wolford v. Lopez challenges a Hawaii law that prevents gun owners from bringing handguns to beaches, bars, restaurants that serve alcohol and gas stations without the owner’s consent. California, Maryland, New Jersey and New York have similar restrictions on guns in public spaces.

“The presumptive ban is inconsistent with our national and historical tradition,” said Alan Beck, a lawyer representing Hawaii gun owners who sued the state.

Beck argued that Hawaii based its law on historical traditions like Black codes which prevented newly formerly enslaved African Americans from obtaining firearms. He said this application is inconsistent with the Second Amendment.

“We can’t use a racist, discriminatory law to apply to a law that applies to the general public,” Beck said.

However, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said she did not understand why Black codes should be excluded in the determination of the law if history and tradition are compelling factors.

Neal Katyal, a lawyer representing Hawaii, argued that the purpose of including Black codes in its explanation is to argue evidence that states have historically been allowed to implement gun regulations. He said Hawaii’s law is based on 200 years of customs against carrying weapons.

Justice Neil Gorsuch appeared skeptical about Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of black codes and compared it to “garlic in front of a vampire.”

“You could have rights and regulations that affect someone’s interests but they actually don’t implicate their constitutional rights,” Jackson said, appearing to be in favor of Hawaii’s restrictions.

Similarly, Justice Sonia Sotomayor pressed Beck on whether people are guaranteed a constitutional right to carry guns on private property.

“Nothing about Hawaii’s custom, tradition, or culture creates an expectation that the general public carries guns wherever they go,” Sotomayor said.

Justices also dug into questions over the distinction between guarantees in the First Amendment and the Second Amendment over private property rules. Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch questioned lawyers for Hawaii over the difference between bringing a gun to a gas station versus soliciting at someone’s house.

Since the Second Amendment deals with gun possession rather than free speech, “the first amendment rules are different from the second amendment,” Katyal said.

In lower court litigation, Hawaii pointed to a 1771 New Jersey law and 1865 Louisiana law that explicitly required consent before entering a private property of any kind with a gun. Lower courts upheld Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of these laws.

Several justices on the court appeared skeptical of these arguments, and Justice Clarence Thomas said later laws, like the 14th Amendment, should be considered in this case since it was generated in response previous legal restrictions.

“They wanted to disarm the Black population in order to help the [Ku Klux] Klan terrorize them,” Justice Samuel Alito said about Black code laws.

Katyal said Black code laws were a “shameful part of our history” but argued they represent how gun owners did not have the right to carry firearms onto private property.

“Even the opponents of the Black codes recognized that you have no right to carry a firearm onto someone’s property,” Katyal said.

John Commerford, executive director of the NRA-ILA, urged justices on the court to rule against Hawaii’s law.

“The Aloha State’s radical ‘vampire rule,’ which prohibits concealed carry permitholders from entering private property without the express consent of the owner, is a blatant violation of the Second Amendment,” he said.

The “vampire rule” refers to the folklore that vampires need an invitation to enter private property.

The justices will decide whether to uphold Hawaii’s gun restrictions by the end of its term, slated for June or early July.

⚠️ Severe Thunderstorm Warning issued June 11 at 6:46PM CDT until June 11 at 7:30PM CDT by NWS Chicago IL
⚠️ Tornado Watch issued June 11 at 2:02PM CDT until June 11 at 9:00PM CDT by NWS Chicago IL
⚠️ Flood Watch issued June 11 at 12:39PM CDT until June 11 at 11:00PM CDT by NWS Chicago IL
Today Jun 10
Chance Showers And Thunderstorms then Mostly Cloudy
58°

Chance Showers And Thunderstorms then Mostly Cloudy

Leave a Comment





Latest News Stories

WATCH: Tax proposals draw questions from Pritzker and GOP state rep

WATCH: Tax proposals draw questions from Pritzker and GOP state rep

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – Illinois lawmakers are considering progressive revenue measures in the final hours of the fall veto session, but...
Illinois quick hits: Former sheriff's deputy guilty in Massey murder; appeals court intervenes in Bavino case

Illinois quick hits: Former sheriff’s deputy guilty in Massey murder; appeals court intervenes in Bavino case

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square Former sheriff's deputy guilty in Massey murder A jury has found a former Sangamon County sheriff’s deputy guilty of second-degree murder...

WATCH: Warnings of higher IL property taxes heard as pension bill advances

By Greg Bishop | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – Supporters of an Illinois Statehouse pension measure say it is a “fix” for Tier 2 public employee...
Top-selling automaker confirms U.S. investment, but no details yet

Top-selling automaker confirms U.S. investment, but no details yet

By Brett RowlandThe Center Square The world's top-selling automaker said it plans to continue investing in U.S. operations but wouldn't confirm on Wednesday that it will be $10 billion, as...
Fentanyl poised to take center stage during Trump, Xi meeting

Fentanyl poised to take center stage during Trump, Xi meeting

By Sarah Roderick-FitchThe Center Square Fentanyl is set to be at the center of President Donald Trump’s scheduled meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday morning. Trump told reporters last...
'Outrageous': Lawmakers bash Biden admin for targeting, surveilling 156 Republicans

‘Outrageous’: Lawmakers bash Biden admin for targeting, surveilling 156 Republicans

By Thérèse BoudreauxThe Center Square The Biden administration’s probe into President Donald Trump’s 2020 election loss progressed far beyond investigating potential fraud and potentially targeted 156 conservatives and conservative organizations....

WATCH: Cruz calls on House to impeach federal judge over subpoenas of Republicans

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on Wednesday called on the U.S. House of Representatives to impeach a federal judge involved in an investigation into President...

WATCH: Pritzker declares agricultural trade ‘crisis’ while Trump touts new deals

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – Gov. J.B. Pritzker has signed an executive order to declare an agricultural trade crisis in Illinois. The...
Amnesty International condemns U.S. strikes on suspected drug boats

Amnesty International condemns U.S. strikes on suspected drug boats

By Brett RowlandThe Center Square Amnesty International, a human rights organization, condemned U.S. military strikes on suspected drug boats in the Caribbean and eastern Pacific that have killed 57 people...
‘Astonishingly reckless:’ IL Dems intro tax on ‘unrealized gains’ to fund transit

‘Astonishingly reckless:’ IL Dems intro tax on ‘unrealized gains’ to fund transit

By Jonathan Bilyk | Legal NewslineThe Center Square With just two days remaining in the Illinois legislative fall veto session, Illinois Democratic state lawmakers have introduced new legislation, ostensibly designed...
Illinois beef producers say Trump’s Argentina beef plan hurts farmers

Illinois beef producers say Trump’s Argentina beef plan hurts farmers

By Catrina Barker | The Center Square contributorThe Center Square (The Center Square) – Illinois beef producers express frustration over President Donald Trump’s plan to expand beef imports from Argentina,...
WATCH: Expect tax and fee increases for veto; Democrats want more sanctuary policies

WATCH: Expect tax and fee increases for veto; Democrats want more sanctuary policies

By Greg Bishop | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – In today's edition of Illinois in Focus Daily, The Center Square Editor Greg Bishop reviews the prospects...
Illinois quick hits: Bailey family announces memorial services; digital currency scam losses

Illinois quick hits: Bailey family announces memorial services; digital currency scam losses

By The Center SquareThe Center Square Bailey family announces memorial services Republican gubernatorial candidate Darren Bailey has announced details of memorial services for his family members who died in a...
Meeting Briefs

Meeting Summary and Briefs: Village of Frankfort Board for October 20, 2025

Village of Frankfort Board Meeting | October 20, 2025 The Frankfort Village Board approved a series of development amendments on Monday, October 20, 2025, allowing the 43-home first phase of...
frankfort-park-district

Frankfort Park District Survey Shows Lack of Support for Top Rec Center Designs; Board Weighs Costly Referendum

Frankfort Park District Special Committee Meeting | September 23, 2025 Article Summary: A recent survey on a proposed indoor recreation center revealed no clear public support for the top two designs...